Joy isn’t optional for leaders, it’s what keeps you connected to the story that makes your work matter.
In this episode, Andy sits down with Kate Bowler, author of Joyful, Anyway, to explore why joy isn’t a distraction from leadership—it’s what sustains it. Joy doesn’t come from solving every problem or achieving every goal. Instead, it reconnects leaders to the deeper story behind their work—the reason it matters in the first place.
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