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description: Joy isn’t optional for leaders, it’s what keeps you connected to the story that makes your work matter.
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# [The Role of Joy in High-Performance Leadership with Kate Bowler](https://andystanley.com/podcast/the-role-of-joy-in-high-performance-leadership-with-kate-bowler)

 Written by [Andy Stanley](https://andystanley.com/podcast/author/andy-stanley) | May 4, 2026

Joy isn’t optional for leaders, it’s what keeps you connected to the story that makes your work matter. 

In this episode, Andy sits down with Kate Bowler, author of *Joyful, Anyway*, to explore why joy isn’t a distraction from leadership—it’s what sustains it. Joy doesn’t come from solving every problem or achieving every goal. Instead, it reconnects leaders to the deeper story behind their work—the reason it matters in the first place.

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Recognized as one of *Forbes' *[6 Leadership Podcasts To Listen To In 2024](https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelwells/2023/12/31/new-year-new-leader-6-leadership-podcasts-to-listen-to-in-2024/?sh=5a71451b70c8) and one of the [Best Leadership Podcasts To Stay in the Know for CEOs](https://www.industryleadersmagazine.com/best-leadership-podcasts-to-stay-in-the-know-for-ceos/), according to *Industry Leaders Magazine.*

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